We agree. But you didnt reply to my implied question about...

We agree.
But you didnt reply to my implied question about Orthodox women.
The two I mentioned have a sister who is less Orthodox and used to give me hugs. She had even done military service in Israel , though I couldnt imagine her killing anyone.Hence my curiousity. My intent was pure.
As to the "used to" , maybe I was premature in using the tongue. lol.

As an aside, I grew up believing that a man's character was displayed in a firm handshake, and I had very hard hands and a firm grip that was 'ouch" material for some.

Read " G'day, Pete, have you met GZ". Reply "Yep".
Did he crush your hand?" Yep. lol.
A Pommie union shop steward once took a swing at me for crushing his hand, the wus. He didnt connect.

Another aside, re Aussie drinking protocols........ One would sit down in the dirt for a drinking session. Big King Brown 750 mil bottles, and the one bottle would be passed around till empty.Unrefidgerated, 5 dozen bottles to the crate. The sin there was in wiping the neck of the bottle if the guy who passed it was "Dark"......... Still, there was no AIDS, Hepatitis, and sharing a bottle was "bonding". Stubbies and cans have removed that.
Would you have wiped the neck of the bottle if drinking after me...... ?????
Simgrund, a lot of our traditions have been destroyed, mate.

GZ