The big end players also have to justify their play to investors...

The big end players also have to justify their play to investors or trusts. Two weeks is not enough time to formulate over the big picture .

Unless it is a speculative buy then its a toss of a coin .

The banks do due dilligence on all loans and obviously there is a good track record to enable a roll over.

Orbis and the banks are very sure footed in their moves , property with a strong cash flow are fundimentals that both are relying on and rightly so.

All commercial properties are down at the moment but residential is up , so as the valuations adjust its obvious commercial properties with stong cashflows will shine.

Wdc is a good example, not sure of their tradeing price today but they are a long way from 30.5 cents These are my thoughts only D.Y.O.R.