Gin for breaky!! Have you gone off your tea and biscuits?  lmao...

Gin for breaky!! Have you gone off your tea and biscuits?  lmao   might make a butcher out of you yet.

" .then how the **** can we say a vote by Joe Public, without that detail (and in many cases without the vaguest idea of the imolications) be valid? "

Thanks for requesting counsel lol, i doubt you get much from someone like me, however you already know the answer, thus the Gin!.

As you do, i think one should play by the rules, especially with such matters of significant importance, 

From a theoretical outlook, i understand your concern with the disarray of parliment and the theoretical questioning of poor old Joe's validity.

Cameron tried but failed and gave Joe the ball, Joe be the last resort, its about freedom not money, money not No.1

We can say a vote by Joe Public is valid because Joe Public is commander and chief of validity, the EU hates the truth and idea of that, thus Junkers replacement of BEPA and the cancellation of scientific, evidence-based policy creation with a political based policy creation system.. ( read the article not the headline.) - https://www.theguardian.com/science/political-science/2014/nov/13/juncker-axes-europes-chief-scientific-adviser

How sad is this - https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13444/germany-child-marriage-law

Anyway time to chill out

Fish.