I'm not sure which one of us fits which epithet fishgutz, your usually incoherent posts are getting even more cryptic - if that's possible. As to MSO, you obviously are not close to that situation or you wouldn't make the stupid remarks about loss of money etc, nothing could be further from the truth. Dollar for dollar & pond for pound I know which company I have more faith in, thus the reason for holding zero RMA & plenty of MSO.