Because of all the blatant bot trading, shorting and...

Because of all the blatant bot trading, shorting and manipulation which we now see daily on most stocks inc ARV and other Pilbara players, I don't think it's any longer appropriate to refer to a companies financial company capitalisation value using the old term '"the market 'values' xyz at" Pirate! Unfortunately the number of shares on issue x SP is now rather meaningless & only reflects whatever capital 'value' certain players wish it to be for whatever personal reasons imo. Technically accurate, but financially meaningless in terms of TO value and realistic net worth! Agree with you on the faint-hearted aspects, but its not restricted to only conglom players unfortunately.