When KBL or Kimberley metals started up spun out of CBH, I bought up big and I went to a seminar by Chief Executive Trangie Johnson and CFO Will Beaurepaire. Well, I would say it was like a couple of cowboys at the Wild West Saloon both wild, supremely confident, gung ho. It was Beaurepaire and Lonergan that did the Capri Loan to Kinghorn who then cleverly leant it on to Corporate not so nice guys Kidman Resources. Alot of money was wasted in those early years mining the talc. The Failure today lies in the early years, and the failed underground mining. Basically Wesson did his best to save this dying dog and Greg Starr was left with the sniff of hope, but the landslide took that away.