I think I'll leave this post here if anyone wants to read it and the embedded posts therein - Post #: 32775985. I always felt Carriere would be an exceptional deposit and would ironically even have lower cost structures to mine at minesite than Roche, and Roche itself is a very very good deposit as well. It is why I feel the plans for Roche is a quick ramp up after production starts to 5mtpa. At the end of the day as I said yesterday it is about a transport solution (and hence post minesite opex cost) and, especially, timing to market the key.