Thanks one and all. I didn't expect such a warm response to be honest. @Sector cheers for the patternsite, will have a look later (may be much later considering all the work you guys have set for me) @sci9249 Had already downloaded that one mate and have been studying it the last few evenings. The problem is I am older now and am having trouble getting things to sink in! @wilfran1pm Wow what a resource! After watching the first film you posted I have downloaded about 150 of his film clip this afternoon. Will have to spend a few hours deleting the 4X market ones and sorting the rest into categories. Most are about 15mins long (which suits my attention span) and I will probably have to watch most of them before I can do that. There is roughly 2500 hours worth there including the hour long ones. The long ones will give me something to watch on the big screen of an evening. @Dazedandconfused Cheers for that clip mate am just about to watch it. Overall guys a phenomenal response, especially for a Sunday arvo. I was hoping you guys would show me how to makes thing simpler, instead you've done the opposite!. Thanks for all your help Rick