In relation to the current string. What a load of crap guys. Patrick Grove started both companies. Pat is aust/singapore educated at sydney uni, work kpmg. He and a host of highly skilled Australians are behind this entity and IPP. Both fantastic "rip offs" of realestate.com.au and carsales.com.au. Pat is a genius and se Asian young entrepreneur for 2012. Almost lost everything in the dot com bust. Heads up catches media.