Yes i think for some, the losses are to great and not easy to...

Yes i think for some, the losses are to great and not easy to regain these losses for 5 cents, 10 or more so taking the tax losses to save elsewhere is reasonable. I put oders in at a low ball just to average down a little. I hold some hope for a future and the future needs some goodwill from management to use the funds only for the benefits of the plant etc and a JV? They have eaten enough cherries from it and had the salary not commensurate to the outcomes. They have been paid already.