bookmop you are spot on, looking back a few posters were full of shi* as they have now panicked and sold out, each to their own i suppose but if you dont like day traders or short sellers and then you basically do the same well take a look in the mirror i say, long term means just that long term and i truly believe this stock has enormous upside as they haven't even scratched the surface yet along with beach in the nappa region IMO.