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Wink the traders are here and there is a continuity to everything so id appreciate if gently talk about trades of all kinds as long as the primary bias is forex . i suppose i could go type in a forum where the wall is the only one listening . This place here suits me the best , im here for the like minded company to toss around trades , forex , gold or indice or whatever . maybe you should start a derivatives thread where all this can be discussed on one forum without anyone getting there nose out of joint . if i remember correctly there was a time when nothing but currency was talked about on XJO thread with out any objections , why is it different now . i suppose we could get all the traders onto msn and just avoid cluttering HC with useless posts ( god aint that an oxymoron) , if thats whats required its what i'll do . if anyones wants to do the msn thing let me know , not hard to get going ... skype , mirc , msn ... whatever