Obe's, I'm not far off agreeing with you as far as Mantle selling a new story goes. It's time to make it happen, move forward or fold and stop mining holders imo.
We'll see soon I guess.
ECT have been so much worse though imo when it comes to mining holders.
I like the Foz. Hopefully he proves they've changed.
But I honestly can't see current holders being anything but diluted to oblivion as this latest dream progresses.