Nothing wrong with using your sense, I just didn't like what one of the other guys was inferring and probably bundled you into the same group sorry. However, inferring is what I am doing too to a large extent. Just know that sense can be developed with research otherwise you're just relying on inference. It's a little concerning that December numbers haven't been released yet. Peter Zhao, the CFO is supposed to be calling me back after his meeting this morning to clear up a statement in the update on 10 January. The November and October reports on final figures were released 13/12 and 20/11 respectively. Also I would like to know when the half-yearly numbers will be reported as its not in my usual source.