Hey REDS,I wouldnt pick Renouf ahead of Hale and Bailey.He may have some mungrel,but he's awkward and not up to it.I dont know what he did in 08,but he has been nowhere near that same player.Ellis and Ladson arent up to it,and throw in Murphy(although he's improved).Shoey makes to many mistakes,and only gets agame because of the injuries and because he's tall.Lisle showed yesterday,that he's a better option,and attacks the ball well.
Petera,who cares if some of our players wouldnt make Collingwood's team.A lot of players wouldnt make Geelongs team either.Two of the players you mentioned are our talls in defence,so whether they would make another team is irrelevant.In regards to the bottom six players,is that if the team is firing,it's easier to play well.I dont think everyone of your players is a star,but if everybody plays their role(as your side does)you have a winning formula,and the botoom players look better than they are.Put them in a another team,and maybe they wont go so well.
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