The Pies were missing Didak, Ben Johnson, Brown, Goldsack, Beams...

The Pies were missing Didak, Ben Johnson, Brown, Goldsack, Beams and McCaffer - all premiership players and Jolly in his first game back was average at best and will only improve. These are Premiership players from 2010 NOT 2008. So you'd have to say they are still form players?

The problem with the Hawks supporters is you have 3 genuine SUPERSTARS in Franklin, Hodge and Rioli and a few other very handy players as well. But lets face it, your depth is nowhere near what Collingwood's and Geelong's is and you simply overate your list due to the cream at the top.

The thing that wins Grand Finals is the bottom 6 players, and your bottom 6 would be playing in our reserves.

Enjoy.