Dont really check that much....I hold a bundle so didnt participate in last CR Yes I'm optimistic but realistic and that's why I reckon the company ought to be up front with facts and ought not get into bed with Erdogan nor do I live on dreams. We were to have seen production in 2017 at one stage...that is now 2019... I have to take them at their word...Cant sell anyway...come this far so sticking with it...