Originally posted by Skol
Gold has outperformed the Dow by 70% since 1999? Completely incorrect. That's what's called cherry-picking, the Dow at its lowest level in many years.
Since 1999 the DJ (with divs reinvested) is up 343%
Gold is up 438%.
Name any other time in history and we'll do another calculation.
Skol you are correct as usual. I've noticed the trait with many posters to ignore dividends when comparing returns. As you point out total return is the true reflection, after all dividends are 'real' and clearly missing from gold.
Also the notion that an index is false as poor performers drop out and that would give a much lower return is also absurd. Poor performers do drop out but the whole point of an index is to track the top performers - it can easily done by using a fund that tracks the index.
Companies ebb and flow, perform at different times, some fail, some rise to new levels. The index is a reflection of confidence investors have in the economy at that time. It is as good a barometer as one can get and easily tracked if one doesn't have the time to invest in individual stocks.
There can be no denying that stock markets in major economies have outperformed gold in the long run, it is black and white! Taking a snapshot of an individual period doesn't change that.
That is backward looking and nobody knows the future with certainty. So it could change. Personally, I can't see it, capitalism in its current form will go from strength to strength with the occasional blip; and gold will drift just a nose ahead of inflation with the odd blip up and down. But a long way behind company returns.