"I far as I come see they are all salesmen, when they do more...

"I far as I come see they are all salesmen, when they do more than drag out old information and make grandiose statements, maybe I'll listen."

The science is there and has been for a while, hence the dragging out of old info, all we need is good salesman with marketing experience and a track record. I'd rather a salesman over a scientist any day to get deals done. However, where do you think MJ and MR have come from? Let's just say they haven't come from selling hotdogs :) Do our current management have a bad track record??? No, they don't. The baggers have nothing...If our current management didn't have to right the wrongs of the past and clean up the mess we might be further along.

We can't hold every stock, but some have chosen CGP...it's all about risk-reward