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    "The managers are impressed with the people who suck up to them, not the workers."

    jill31

    In my example I posted that if you found 2 out of 5, good proactive Managers you were going allright.

    You have, in most cases, described the other 3 out of 5 Managers.

    Theres no perfect world, never has been, never will be. imo

    Theres too much bullsh.t in todays world, something has to give.

    jill31 stay cool and true to yourself and dont let the bastards get to you. !

    Good Luck

    Md
 
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