I think this is a fair rebuttal on face value and yet in an odd...

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    I think this is a fair rebuttal on face value and yet in an odd twist the Jesus that Christians worship today is very much an invention of the Romans. The real Jesus is all but impossible to access because He has been stylised and remodelled and continues to be to fit the political and power craving needs of generations of religious hierarchies and belief systems, all competing for the very lucrative worshippers money and adoration.

    Jesus has been reinvented over and over again to attract worshippers who get tired with the old Jesus. The one that preached universal love, freedom from judgement, religious tolerance and brotherhood gets boring after a while. This can be seen even as early as across the four Gospels. The more removed these works are from the real Jesus the more supernatural and fantastical He becomes. This is marketing, pure and simple. This is how you make your church more popular than the guys next door, build your own better Jesus.

    Just look at the American religions of the 1800s as an example and the various types of new Jesus' they invented, Mormons, Seventh Day, Jehovah Witness all invented their own special Jesus. Hillsong have the all dancing, all singing, all hug the person next to you Jesus and it's a very popular marketing ploy that has no relationship to the real Jesus. This is making money and ego building and has no long term benefits to humanity at all.

    As for the first Jesus, there are a mere handful of references to this Jesus in the OT. This is why the Jews rejected Him as the Messiah. As for the second Jesus, the Jesus returned, there are as you say many prophecies and references. The difficulty is determining which Jesus is being spoken of because they are not one and the same person, their common Jesus-ness suggests only that they serve a single Will.

    As for the second Jesus, the returned Jesus, all prophecy concerning the actual return of this Jesus has come to pass for well over a century, so where is He?
 
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