@Jadis, they are very skilled at not playing with shareholders money and very prudent, do you know how much it costs to drop an announcement out on the ASX, so many here expect to be updated every time the phone rings in the office, they will let us know whats happening when they know, if nothing has changed they probably wont announce anything, much to the horror of some, go back and read our latest announcements, an estimated resource upgrade of between 12 and 25 million ounces, now we all know how hard it is to get numbers into any ASX announcement these days without proof, so I am guessing VEC has provided enough information to the ASX that they allowed the figures to be included, that is pretty exciting isnt it, we now wait for the finance to be sorted and Magna sent packing, who knows maybe even Monday something could develop, have a great weekend