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I don't know if it's poor terminology or not but I believe that...

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    I don't know if it's poor terminology or not but I believe that stat is "only 10% of traders make money long term". I would believe that.

    As you say I know heaps of investors that have made good money. Only takes a few that you get really right to outweigh a lot of others.
 
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