Juvenile is such a loose term ... what is being questioned here...

Juvenile is such a loose term ... what is being questioned here is exactly what he is talking about.

''When we are misled on volume aspirations and misled in costs we can't tolerate that in terms of the way we invest our money,'' he said.

... since I've lost count on the number of juveniles the genius factory has promoted within Blackrock's own industry, the financial services. If diddums can't tolerate that, what is he doing in the financial services period? Misrepresentation of financials is not the sole realm of mining operations!

But you are right, some wouldn't care what carries this up to the previous gap down, since they didn't really care how it got to 30c either.