Don't know but they better get serious about moving some product...

Don't know but they better get serious about moving some product and iveco the Italians really want to access mine market so it is there begging to be gone as iveco love 2nd party modifiers and support them.

Not sure about the other company but they came up when I was searching for a exhaust brake and it stuck out like doggies balls that they are selling specialist brakes to mines and any that ABV can access directly they should be letting these guys do.

The more tough , abrasive , corrosive, freezing the environment the better enclosed braking system becomes as long as it comes in a correct price. the other part is that it is far more reliable and isn't just using larger components to give longer service life or make up for the fact that conditions cause 50% of avaliable ( in teh shed brand new0 braking not to be available.