What was explicit? We have not heard a peep about China and then...

What was explicit? We have not heard a peep about China and then some fluff in the presentation that gives zero insight?

Are they actively speaking with anyone in China, holding meetings, trials, spending money over there? We have zero indication of what is actually happening there. 

If it has come to a dead halt as you say, they why include it in the presentation.

I believe and back this company on its fundamentals but this is just marketing spin to make them look global when in fact CAJ is simply a very large player in VIC and trying to land grab in other markets in AU.