Ann: HIL Financial Year 2016 Results-HIL.AX, page-18

That's all good, and a fair point you may not necessarily be a down-ramper so I apologise for that throw away line. It just seems like those are the sorts that come out of the blocks straight after any company announcement. My opinion is that this company is a staple in the SA skyline and a solid company at that, they are doing well to turn it around and it doesn't happen overnight. Also important to consider where the SP was and where it is now in relation to company performance and overall value.