Ann: H1 FY 2019 results presentation, page-15

An alternative would be that she is disconnected from the shareholders if you prefer that. We really do need better information. they have earlier promised a dividend then changed their minds failed to even update shareholders a year ago. Really I think she thought that having the Thorney group invested was all she needed to have but they haven't increased their stake as I understand it for a long time.

Really the Diversa shareholders as I am are really digging deep to remain invested here.