yeh -well another time I've seen a so called industry...

yeh -well another time I've seen a so called industry participant who really cant call it for shareholders - very rarely do you get good feedback from those in the industy , let alone feedback that is useful for making an investment decision-the poster on ISD from the industry is an exception at present- queen jenny was another over on ONE

No offence to you wintervet -just seen it time and again

Thing is you would think that Australian fund managers are working in cohoots with the private equity mobs -company has a hiccup -the fundies short it (sometimes for a year or more), and then when beat down and prospects improving or about to, the PE mobs launch a takeover!!!