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Originally posted by tim8wilson ↑

"All the greedy capitalist, grasping, leeching, unoriginal scroungers who follow me to copy my ideas so they can make lots of money to by expensive luxuries I say go to hell."

People are following you around to copy your ideas? A little self reflection please.

Regarding your Orwell quote he outright states that he disliked the situation despite saying the he would fight for it. I should also point out that making 'laws' against things like tipping is not very anarchist since in theory there are no laws under such a society. Aside from the 'call no man sir' aspect to me the society Orwell describes sounds quite awful. If you want me to ask you questions ok, here's one: Would you force this type of society on others?

Consider the following two hypothetical scenarios:
A) a society where there is massive inequality but a high median standard of living
B) a society where there is no inequality but everyone is dirt poor

I would rather live in society A. I do not consider economic equality to be a meaningful measure of success in society. It is held up as such mainly for political reasons - the politics of envy.

Regarding personal responsibility, when I raised this previously you seemed to think it meant 'it's your fault that you are poor' and now you want to run the entire economy on this principal. There are many good diligent people who due to temperament would work hard in any environment, there are also people who are lazy. Under socialist systems a person gets the same out of the system regardless off how much they put into it, as such under this system hard working people are exploited by those who do nothing.

I have a lot of respect for Orwell but I don't agree with many of his positions. If you read the Road to Wigan Pier written just prior to his time in Spain he makes the argument that because fascism was a rising problem at the time (late 1930s) that the only alternative is socialism - to me this is a ridiculous argument.

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"Would you force this type of society on others?"

Another fascist hiding behind an apparently noble ideology? (Perhaps all belligerent ideologues are?).

"People are following you around to copy your ideas?"

Perhaps all crusaders are delusional?

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