Well hold the water for a while longer stormer. Don't forget that HDY has to get over at least its biggest hurdle on December 20th/21st and convince the ASX that its answer or answers are to the ASX's satisfaction. If HDY fails then I would suggest that VIC will not be let off the canvas either and may well be given the knock out count as well.The lengthy, tedious explanation and attempt to slither and slide through the performance of the last few months certainly was artful and obviously has some posters hearing what they want to hear and believe. I don't think the ASX will be so willing to swallow such a crock of not very nice stuff.