cd, surely youre not advocating a forecast on expected revenue cant be given due to commercial in confidence? contrary to your assertion that we want backroom intel, I can assure u we don't. we just want the same kind of information ALL other companies provide their sh's. nothing more / nothing less. its good to see we agree dumping the chairman as a form of protest vote is futile. as for boardroom chatter, I must confess, the only avx directors ive ever engaged with are the current ones. I must ask, when you read the update with mention on a second facility coming online q2, how much confidence do you have in kirks & co meeting this dead line? and if any, why? its worth remembering, these guys haven't built a hundreds of millions dollar plant. this is a backyard as she gets, yet they have continually over promised and under delivered.