the point Kruiser made is an absolutely valid one..if this is...

the point Kruiser made is an absolutely valid one..if this is about value add, give the market an idea of what you have come up with so far.....they must know to make the annc they just have....so sh's at least know what we are value adding to ....sorry but this sounds like trying again because of crappy numbers.....think about it, with the sp in the toilet if they had decent numbers, say we have already got x y z but we can improve it