Originally posted by DrStrangelove:
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"I differentiate between Muslims the people and Islam the ideology. I love my Muslim neighbor as the Bible commands, and I am friends with all my Muslim staff. But I hate the religion’s ideology. It is not Muslims we should be attacking, it’s Islam. Islam makes Muslims victims with a tight grip that holds them captive to an evil ideology." . I think that's a fairly hollow attempt by Ian Sleeper to have a bet each way incase he gets PC pinged with the R word .. Fairly sure "Muslim" means a person submitting to the religion of "Islam". Mu means person slm means submit and islm means submit to their God. While Muslim refers to the person, Islam refers to the religion itself, they are mutually inclusive. The thin veneers people use to mask their real bias is problematic in that it muddies the waters for both sides of the argument. Political correctness is generally just a catch phrase for paternalism and it's because we instinctively recognise it as that we rail against it, although there are enough all too excitable social warriors out there to indicate a % of people who don't make the transition suggested in 1 Corinthians 13:11 The real situation is that we can't bring ourselves to accept our own bigotries, racial, political, etc. or otherwise. And those biases can be ugly or admirable depending on the cultural norms of prevailing society. Travellers know nations are different, we see it in simple forms like the types of toilets employed, where women are chattels and where they are honoured, where poverty and deprivation contrast with obscene wealth and too little largesse. But the international indice for the pulse of any nation is it's taxi drivers and they pretty much all seem to have the same friendly demeanor, complain about their leaders and ask if you are from Sydney. We are talking about peoples who have been harangued cradle to the grave for generations into submission to autocratic rule and fear. Of course they innately want freedom of expression and freedom, but how do you hope to get them a desirable outcome in a foreign culture by providing them the workspace and the tools without the training them how to deploy/employ them.... you can't when multiculturalism takes precedence over assimilation. Multiculturalism comes with the anchor of state sponsored segregation wrapped in a romantic idea that ghettos are viscerally attractive when govts should really be promoting intellect over superstitions et al. There's more to an ethnicity than the contribution they have made to e.g. our foods and dining culture.
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While Muslim refers to the person, Islam refers to the religion itself, they are mutually inclusive. Not unless they become ex-muslims. The ideology needs to be understood better by the non-believer or Kafir(or Kufr) before one can address the issues. There is a lot of hate and tribal generalizations in that ideology and these can easily be exploited by those with an agenda. For example, by radical immans and politicians. I don't how Islam, the religion, can be separated from Islam, the political system. Here is a video that explains some of the "hate".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhgA42w1rKs