Originally posted by Langers
So your response to any questions on being more moral in conduct is that I need rehab, I need to be medicated, I am deceitful and I am beyond redemption.
Very disappointing in your attempts at dialogue. I may have disagreed with you on many issues Simgrund, but I respected and read them. I truly did because you need to walk in another’s shoes to understand their issues even if you disagreed. But this is a whole new level of dialogue and shows a level of viciousness that I didn’t think you would be capable of but I was wrong.
I truly thought a form of peace or degree of stability is possible in the region and in early 2000’s but death of leaders and other factors removed those incentives/momentum that were close. I believe anything is possible and I do believe both side are capable of peace, but is easier to break than to build. But you should never wish for war and you still should remain moral in your conduct. This current path leads to war and destruction and it takes real leadership to make a difference. War brings out the worst and immoral conduct brings out much worse, you only see it in the way with little things how to respectfully treat the dead and civilians as examples in various conflicts.
You can talk about me being an apologist as much as you want but you still need to walk in their shoes also Simgrund, not what you think that is.
Talking about morals?
Listen to Col Kemp, someone who says it the way it is....from experience!
Then read the article below, yesterdays date mind you.
ColonelRichard Kemp - Commander British Army on Israel
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Arab ChristianSoldier: IDF the Most Moral Army in the World
Monday, October 22, 2018 | Israel Today Staff
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Israel is facing increased efforts to besmirch both its governmental policies and the conduct of its military, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).
But that has also resulted in a growing number of minority citizens and soldiers coming forward and exposing the half-truths and outright deceptions employed by the Jewish state's detractors.
Among them is Yoseph Haddad, a 33-year-old Arab Israeli Christian from Nazareth who served proudly in the IDF during the Second Intifada and the Second Lebanon War.
In response to Harvard University's decision to host a lecture by members of the radical anti-IDF organization "Breaking the Silence," Haddad penned the following in an op-ed published by Aish.com:
"I must break my silence. I served in the IDF during the Second Intifada. It was a difficult time. I also stood at checkpoints, stood guard, arrested people and fought in the Second Lebanon War. As an Israeli Arab and IDF solider in the Golani Brigade, I served together with other Israelis: Jews of all backgrounds, Druze and Bedouin. We were all equal, we were all brothers fighting side by side and I can testify that I served in the most humane and moral army in the world, with the highest code of ethics and human values.
"The IDF is an army that will bend over backwards to save lives and to ensure that innocent individuals are not harmed, even if it means complicating the military operation."
Two things stand out in Haddad's description of life in Israel and service in the IDF:
The characterization of Israel as an "apartheid" state is faulty at the most basic level. Under true apartheid, such as practiced by the former regime in South Africa, minorities like Haddad wouldn't be permitted to serve in military combat roles alongside members of the dominant community;
Accusing the IDF of engaging in a strategy of genocide, as Israel's detractors often do, is so bereft of evidence as to be laughable. As Haddad and numerous others have testified (though their testimonies are often ignored entirely by the media) very few, if any, militaries in the world take such pains to protect enemy populations as does the IDF.
PHOTO: Israeli soldiers guarding the Hebron Jewish community chat with a local Palestinian Arab man. (Wisam Hashlamoun/Flash90)
