US v China, page-2

Nope . Give it up man. You look desperate. You are basically the only one here ....what does that say....

As an investor of what over 10 years ? you of all people should know by now that just because a company own's some shares and a few investments in others - I think the term is ' Cash Box ' company. These companies have never typically traded at a premium ....and I have been investing now for some 30 years.

Unfortunately Investors at this end of the market generally want leverage well and truly above what these mangy mix of gratuitous holdings I'm afraid.....