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Underwriters fee may define HK max price to about 0.21-0.25 A$ ?

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    There is big difference in ASX price and suggested HK price
    In case of Dragon the underwriter should consider a substantial risk/possibility
    of getting many shares. The underwriter in unclear but may be related
    to Mr Poon and Mr Pak, who would get to the board.
    https://hotcopper.com.au/threads/mr-poon-pak-and-ip-want-your-shares-for-0-35-a.4291023/
    Most likely it should have been indicated if current owners like
    Allied Properties would be underwriters?

    There appears to be quite large payment for underwriting
    and other costs. Based on the Dragon´s annual meeting info the
    major part of the possible 17,5 million A$ HK share issue would go to
    underwriting and other costs leaving possibly about 10 million.
    See table page 8/13
    https://hotcopper.com.au/threads/ann-notice-of-annual-general-meeting-proxy-form.4149553/

    This mean that if there would be 7 million for underwriting (likely it is less), the underwriter
    would need to sell the shares he would have gotten before the average selling price would fall under
    0.21 A$ (10,5/17,5 * 0.35 A$) to avoid losses.
    In case under writer could get 6 million, he had initiative to sell before price falls under 0.23 A$ (11,5/17,5* 0.35A$), with 5 milion fee this cut-off for  his losses would be 0.25 A$.  The Australian and other shareholders
    would need to sell before the underwriter to get the cut-off price to get that price level.

    The underwriter´s fee and cut-off price may define
    HK maximum price to about 0.21-0.25 A$,
    the minimum price would be much lower.

    An attempt to sell so large amount of shares could create quite a panic, as others
    who have bought share with 0.35A$ may want to cut their losses, too. And there are
    the old shareholders who would like to have benefit with regard to ASX price.

    This is some great Chinese gambling. To think that one would get 0.35A$ or even close, would mean that you are better and faster seller in Hong Kong than the underwriter and that the price would not crash immediately.

    I think based on the underwriting price, we have quite good explanation for the current share prices in ASX.

    Is there an underwriting agreement in place?
    It would be great news for shareholder hoping for something like the Hong Kong price, or
    underwriter´s cut-off price,  if the underwriting agreement would be in place, as
    millie34au suggested in the other thread.
    Has Dragon informed about such?
    As the rough terms were decided in the annual meeting, the announcement should be after that?
    It would be materially important for shareholders to know the underwriter's fee.
    This would definitively be price sensitive information

    One could consider that the suggested new board member's (Poon's and Pak's) companies would be interested in buying large amounts of shares, and this could be an opportunity for present owners. Especially if the deal can be done before the race would start.   It would be interesting to see, what Poon´s and Pak's gamble would be.
    It is likely, as suggested by millie34au, that underwriter may not buy Australian shares, at least directly, but they may have interest and means to avoid a possible panic...

    Sponsor Altus is relative small company in Hong Kong GEM-list
    See may 2nd posting:
    https://hotcopper.com.au/threads/mr-poon-pak-and-ip-want-your-shares-for-0-35-a.4291023/
 
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