I can't argue with the disaster that was the IPO - and yes a lot of people have lost a lot of money. It's been horrendous even the ABC's business newsreader Alan Kohler is sitting on a capital loss but I know Arthur is working his proverbial a$re off to get things back on track - I've averaged down and am in at around 16c so not too bad but I really would like to see this company prosper - it's a great space - yes DCL needs more FUM and probably better marketing but it's just frustrating that all that comes from your posts is negativity negativity negativity and being a non holder makes me and others question your real motives. I'm not buying that you really care about the other holders. You don't sound like Mother Teresa mate.