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21/02/17
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Originally posted by Strawman68
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Brumbypat - I think you might have got the wrong end of the stick so to speak. EPW as per their announcement is hoping that the value of the LRECS goes down in the next 3 years so that they can then go out and purchase them cheaply and hand them to the regulator to get their penalty back (assuming govt has money - interesting but if that happens it also means ERM will pay $37m less tax in the future 3 years which means an impact on franking credits doesn't it - this seems like a short term fix without regard to long term issues)... EPW are not betting on the LRECS getting more valuable, in fact there is a cap on the price. If the price goes above $92.86 then every retailer will choose to pay the penalty which is cheaper. EPW are betting on the price going down for whatever reason. This assumes that there will be more supply than demand and hence prices drop. Unless the rules change, there is a legislated cap on the price of certificates and they will not go anywhere to $92.86 or above.
I think the government may change the rules to limit how much retailers can pay a penalty on - one of those loopholes that they missed and EPW has now shown it. Its quite possible that LREC prices stay high and which case EPW has given up a lot of earnings for nothing.. only time will tell. If you see the media reports - the regulator is not happy as that was not the spirit or the intention of the legislation... that's whats at issue here. you and I are paying higher prices for our electricity so that retailers like EPW have to buy certificates to support renewable energy - EPW is not doing that whilst others are....and not just for a little bit - but a big bit. Question you have to ask yourself is why as EPW gone out so heavy on it - suggest you get your hands on some research reports - they are very informative and have a general theme that EPW's margins on their Australian customers have dropped from $4.50 in FY16 to maybe <$1.00 in FY17 - which is their concern - we wont know if they are right until Thursday.
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Mate you sound like you probably know what you're talking about, but why would EPW pay a cash penalty to hold onto a commodity (their current LG certificates) and hope that the price goes down?
Does EPW not already hold 1.9 million of these certificates?
I'm open to being proven wrong, but just thinking it out from your perspective and I cant see the logic to it.
My way of thinking is that they need the price to go up so they can sell their current holding of 1.9 million certificates at $93+ each and make a nice little earn. All while showing up the flaws in the Govt's LREC scheme.