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    "I get a probability weighted (ie expected) intrinsic value (based on my 10% required return) of about 12c per share, That is, buying at 9c represents about a 25% margin to my estimated, conservative (I hope), intrinsic value."

    @madamswer

    I should perhaps add some commentary to this final point. A 25% margin to my intrinsic estimated value doesn't sound too enticing. It is important to note, however, that my estimate here is based on some pretty pessimistic forecasts, and also includes a very pessimistic "plug" of complete wipe-out.

    I would not, by any stretch, claim to have the ability to forecast a business of this sort, under the conditions in which it finds itself. In fact, I would never have even looked at it during the boom times (even if it did not appear over valued, by any relevant metrics).

    In effect, what I am saying is that whilst I have no certainty about the upside, I am fairly confident that I am being quite pessimistic. In short, I am really saying that my probability weighted intrinsic value (ie my expected value) is actually less, perhaps substantially less, then my estimate. I just have no real idea how much less.

    I think the bottom line is, that if you don't know the real expected value, but you have a good sense (or so you think) of a very pessimistic value, then that's all you need to know.
    Last edited by MarsC: 07/03/16
 
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