hawks are pretenders, page-24

Agreed Reds, you'll still make top 4. You have a pretty easy run home and West Coasts seems a little tougher.

To say you're pretenders is a little rich. You still worry me as a Collingwood man... I personally hope somehow West Coast knock you out of 4th but even they won't be easy come September.

VERY interesting Finals series to come. I think 5 teams can still win it. Hoping mine gets up though if not just to hear the same old crap from those not clever enough to know a quality team when they see it.