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    A guy called David Corell from the rivkin group found offence in what I said yesterday re AVJ. He threatned to sue me. Here is his threat:
    "We attach extracts of postings made on the Hot Copper website which we
    understand have been made by yourself.

    We find it interesting that you have on more than one occasion attempted
    to gain details of our recommendations from other subscribers via the
    Hot Copper website and subsequently written what we consider to be
    defamatory comments concerning our investment strategies.

    You are of course entitled to your opinion, however, if you continue to
    post comments such as those posted yesterday in a public forum like Hot
    Copper we will have no hesitation in taking legal action against you.
    Could you please advise the name of your solicitors for service.

    We will also be writing to Hot Copper advising them that by allowing
    such comments to be presented on their website, they too expose
    themselves to action.

    Yours faithfully

    David Croll
    The Rivkin Report
    ue me.

    My Reply was:

    I am ashamed to note that you people stoop down to threats in order to
    scare people.

    When
    I was a subscriber to your newsletter I would still be critical about
    your recommendations on hotcopper despite my knowledge that you guy were
    looking for actual postings verbatim off your report. This I have not
    done. All I have done is be critical with my own reasons.

    People are allowed to be critical just about anything. And most off all
    if they provide proper reasons (as I have done with AVJ) there is no law
    against it. There have been many times where people have actually cast
    disparaging remarks against Rene and I have defended him. However, I
    have not cast remarks that are false or disparaging on this occasion
    against anyone in particular. However, talking about a stock you guys
    have recommended and providing my technical views on it is certainly not
    defamation and I may continue to do so. My aim is to freely educate some
    of the so called lemmings on the forum who buy blindly. There is nothing
    wrong with that.

    The AVJ posting had no defamatory comments. There was only fact. You may
    have got offended when I said that the money management techniques are
    dismal. That is fact. If someone loses more than 10% of their money and
    does nothing then that is not a good strategy. Read any book written out
    there by highly qualified and experienced professional traders who have
    turned authors on the subject of trading and you will discover that they
    say the same thing. Based on these authors comments if one continues to
    lose money on trades above 10% on a trade and one does not act then they
    say it's a sign of an armature trader.

    Asking for what was recommended in the rivkin report is not illegal. If
    someone mentions the stock code is still not illegal as it breaches no
    copyright laws. However, posting chucks of it as I said about may breach
    copyright laws. And the reason I do it is to give my views on the stock
    to the forum. Is there anything wrong with that?

    I am at liberty to be critical and so is anyone for that matter of fact.
    I will post this little threat you have made against me on the forum.
    Let me know if that is ok and your legal reasons as to why I shouldn't.

    And it is an offence to threaten people with no proper cause I may add.
    If you want to take legal action against me then you have to tell me on
    what basis and if its defamation (which I can only presume) then you
    have to give me the exact words that defame you.

    For the sake of completeness let me say that the definition of
    defamation in Osborn's Law Dictionary states that - "the tort consisting
    in the publication of false and derogatory statement respecting another
    person without lawful justification." Now I have justified my reasons as
    to why AVJ was a bad trade according to technical analysis. Now its upto
    you to tell me first on what basis you are going to take legal action
    and why.

    Finally, from a postive perspective and to prove that I am a worth
    critic - There have been many occassions where I have commended some of
    your reccommendations as well. Not only have I done this I have also
    openly said on the forum that if one needs to get a good feel for
    takeover rules then Rene Rivkin is the expert in this area. And I still
    stand by this. Unfortunately, Rene is no longer associated with the
    report.

    Look forward to your reply.

    And his reply was:

    Below is the particular segment of your comments I find defamatory
    especially referring to the team writing the report as amateurs.
    Furthermore, the Rivkin Report has long gone against the trend of other
    investment managers and authors with a good deal of success.

    I would suggest you limit your use of dictionaries to learning how to
    spell.

    David Croll

    "I have written to the rivkin group often about these concepts and have
    told them to their face that their money management technicques are
    dismal. But the penny does not drop. The people running it now are
    amatures"

    My reply to him was as follows, and he never replied back.

    I think your comments are just heading into the realms of absurdity and
    insanity.

    Spelling these days is confined to a spell checker when one types. The
    speed of typing causes these mechanical errors. If I misspelt something
    I wrote to you I apologise. I write according to my audience. For
    example, if I was filing a writ to sue you for being a nuisance,
    harassment and for false threats then I would make sure the spelling is
    perfect as the registrars in Court get a bit rubbed off. However, if
    writing to you or on hotcopper I don't even bother to check for any
    typos.

    The last time I wrote to the Rivkin report in relation to this statement
    was this week. Speak to Anthony and get your facts straight. I will
    reproduce the email for your reference.

    I suggest that it would pay for you to brush up on your law before you
    go detecting spelling errors. It would not look all that flash to sue me
    with no grounds in front of a judge and jury not to mention the media
    who is so savage these days. The sentiment these people have against
    your organisation at the moment is not in your favour rightly or
    wrongly. So keep the powder dry and don't put the rivkin name again into
    the spotlight. And I invite you to debate with me on hotcopper anytime.

    Finally, let me say that I have nothing against your organisation or any
    individuals. I still like Rene and I am very grateful to him for the
    knowledge he has passed. In my view I still maintain that the people who
    run the show are armatures compared to Rene and many other stock gurus
    such as Daryl Guppy etc. This is my view and you do not necessarily have
    to agree with it. You however, do not come close to any of these people.
    I am ready to take you on anytime because you have upset me for no
    reason and without getting your facts right.

    Signed
    Barrister & Solicitor
    Vic Supreme Court
 
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