oh mjp you are blathering around the edges.
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Any primary school student can work out after being told that when the sun dont shine the POLAR VORTEX forms and contracts. And when the sun shines the polar vortex disappears. Are you in Primary school yet MJP. Because I really wonder mate! yep no sun means cool.
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You made comment I referred to the tropical or sub tropical region only. Not sure why but anyway.
If the ill informed BELIEVE in climate terms we can simultaneously have an expanding Hadley Cell which thus means poleward moving CYCLONE tracks and simultaneously have a expanding Polar Cell well to be frank that person is just plain stupid or just bullsheepling the sheep.
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Very selective of you to focus on only one reference of many that i posted. And then you still have ballsed it up. What a joke.
Lets be clear again.
Stratosphere warming is consistent with a wavy jet stream. YES IT IS Because the IPCC have confirmed via observations that the cooling stratosphere contracts the Polar vortex and they have also confirmed that a increasing greenhouse gas (ozone) in the Stratosphere (not troposphere) will negate troposphere ghgs.
What does GHGs in the stratosphere do mjp. i know what the IPCC think it does. Do you agree with them or disagree
Since the climate shift of the 70s the polar jetstream has contracted as OBSERVED by the IPCC. But of late the jet stream is showing tendecies of NOT CONTRACTING. aka getting loose! Using the IPCC's own evidence ONE HAS to conclude that the stratosphere is warming or is seeing a increased amount of stratospheric warming events!
They have made clear a stratosphere with more ozone will negate the effects of ghg's. They have made clear a cooling stratosphere will cause the polar vortex to contract.
Declining stratosphere ozone and increasing tropopause ghgs have the same effect on the polar vortex and jetream. The IPCC have made that clear. @mjp2 believes the physics of the southern hemisphere ozone and ghgs is OPPOSITE to the Northern Hemisphere.
Ask your wife that mjp. You inferred she worked at NZ MET. She can put you back on the straight road again mate.
I have posted what snip it s I have specifficallyy on this subject but far from ot being all. above is grouped in IPCC reports. i.e the Third TAR, AR4 and AR5
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